Nice detailed report ! Similiar to the view in a 20" Ritchey-Cretien at local star party a week ago. (Club scope) The shape description very accurate - IMO it should be called the "Bow-Tie" ! Clif - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The Ramsey Reports - <http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/5367> Belden Observatory - 42.2037N 75.6921W El. 425M Planet Earth