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RE: (meteorobs) Sighting on 2/8/1998 - 19:05 EST



Jean-Christophe,

Thank you very much for the information.  I did not know a glint from a satellite could be so bright.

Yes, Swedesboro is a very small town located in the center of the New York / Washington DC corridor.  

Thanks again for your help.

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From:	J.C. Millot [SMTP:papou@canl.nc]
Sent:	Monday, February 09, 1998 4:22 PM
To:	meteorobs@latrade.com
Subject:	Re: (meteorobs) Sighting on 2/8/1998 - 19:05 EST



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> From: 	J.C. Millot[SMTP:PAPOU@CANL.NC]
> Sent: 	Monday, February 09, 1998 4:21:56 PM
> To: 	meteorobs@latrade.com
> Subject: 	Re: (meteorobs) Sighting on 2/8/1998 - 19:05 EST
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
> 
Hi all
>Location of observation: facing the eastern horizon
>Approximately 55 to 65 degrees above the horizon
>
>Location of observers:
>Swedesboro NJ, USA
>45N Degrees Latitude
>75W Degrees Longitude
>
>Apparent movement: from overhead toward North East horizon
>
>Apparent distance of visible travel: 5 degrees
>
>Apparent magnitude: Initially as bright or brighter than Jupiter.
>
>Observing time: maximum of 15 seconds, it could have been as little as 10
>seconds.
>



Then Wayne said :


>If it indeed only traveled 5 degrees in 10 or 15 seconds, it is not likely
>a meteor; atop my list of suspects would  be a satellite, particularly one
>of the Iridium series...I'll see if I can impose on a satellite observer
>friend of mine to check out whether such an event was scheduled.


I tried my idirflar DOS program with the approximate location given by the
observer.

This gave me an Iridium flare at 19:01 local time but with a magnitude
around -1. Not at all brighter than Jupiter.

Then I realized that as far as I know, New Jersey is not 45 N.

I went on the web to the tiger map service

http://www.censusdot gov/cgi-bin/gazetteer/

and found this

Swedesboro, NJ (borough)
Population (1990): 2024
Location: 39.74608 N, 75.31278 W
Zip Code(s): 08085

(this is quite a small town)!!!

I then rerun my Iridium prediction program and then :



Configuration file: IRIDFLAR.CFG
TLE File: iridiums.tle
Latitude:  39.74600  Longitude:  -75.31300  Altitude:   25.0 m
Time Zone: UTC  -5.0 h
                      Iridium Coordinates  Range   Sat   Solar
Peak  Std    Maximum Flare
Ir   Date      Time    Azm El   RA   Decl  (km)  N Ill Azm  Elev M FlrAng
Mag  Mag  Mag Latitude Longitude
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
13 98- 2- 8 19:00:16.0 027 47  8h21  69.3 1026.8 A Lit 265 -17.4 L  1.86
0.8 -8.1  0.7  39.3817  -75.2378
13 98- 2- 8 19:00:23.0 025 45  8h42  70.8 1056.0 A Lit 265 -17.4 L
 0.31 -5.1 -8.0 -5.3  39.7669  -75.2400
13 98- 2- 8 19:00:30.0 024 43  9h06  72.1 1086.6 A Lit 265 -17.4 L  1.75
0.8 -7.9  0.5  40.1520  -75.2418


This gives a -5.1 mag flare at 19:00:23 with Azimuth 025 (NNE) and Elevation
45

I think this what they saw.

I am really used to observing these flares and to a non specialist they
could be taken for a meteor. The main difference to make a good distinction
between the 2 phenomenons is the angular speed which is less than 1 deg/sec
for the Iridium flare.

My best Iridium flares are a -8 mag ones and among those one seen in
daylight.

You will find useful info about these flares at the follwing web page :

http://www2.satellite.eu.org/sat/vsohp/iridium.html

If you can't run predictions programs, I can run other checks about
satellites for the list when required.

Hope this helps.

Jean-Christophe 'Papou' Millot - email : papou@canl.nc
Consultant en Technologies de l'Information - IT Consultant
B.P. 13581 98803 Noumea CEDEX
Nouvelle-Caledonie - New Caledonia (22d17S, 166d28E)  UT+11
Tel/Fax/Rep : (687) 27 69 84 - Mobile : (687) 77 19 97

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