Sorry I didn't change the subject box for my posting entitled 'NGC 4262 galaxy 20" Dobsonian'. It of course should have read M87. Many apologies Nick Nick Martin, Bonnyton House, By Ayr, Ayrshire KA6 7EW ,Scotland, UK. Latitude 55 24'56" Longitude 4 26' 00". To UNSUBSCRIBE from the 'netastrocatalog' lists, use the Web form at: http://www.visualdeepsky.org/subscribe.html